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		<title>By: Tricia Ten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tricia Ten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATTN:  Steven Marcus:  Thank you for miracling me into the shows and making me eternally grateful.  I hope that you are doing really well and can&#039;t believe that I haven&#039;t seen you since forever.  It sucks that the band has gotten so inscestual.  Whatever, typical Cali crap!  We still re all trying t make it somehow on the dreams we still believe in.~Don&#039;t give it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATTN:  Steven Marcus:  Thank you for miracling me into the shows and making me eternally grateful.  I hope that you are doing really well and can&#8217;t believe that I haven&#8217;t seen you since forever.  It sucks that the band has gotten so inscestual.  Whatever, typical Cali crap!  We still re all trying t make it somehow on the dreams we still believe in.~Don&#8217;t give it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com/archives/2287/comment-page-1#comment-32012</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found the blogs by Steve Marcus from Dec 05 about the Dead culture of democracy in sharing the wealth among the family. What Steve didn&#039;t mention was the incredible generosity of the Dead family itself. I met Steve in a sushi bar in Menlo Park circa 1983 or 84. We hit it off and became more than just acquaintances over the next several years. I had already long moved from the Bay Area, but we stayed in touch. Steve was just a great guy--I always insisted on paying for tickets (but just the fact that I could count on getting them was incredible)---Steve almost always threw in backstage passes as well. I&#039;ll never forget one of the New Year&#039;s runs--maybe 86 or 87? A whole bunch of us were there for all the concerts, and we topped off New Years with a great lunch at a Chinese Restaurant in Berkeley. We invited Steve to come join us, and he actually showed up! He didn&#039;t know any of my friends, but we were brought together only as fellow Dead Heads can be. They were just great times, and I really miss those days. For me they all ended the day the Fat Man died.
I haven&#039;t seen or spoken to Steve in many years--we just lost touch. I hope he&#039;s doing well. He deserves it!!!
Barry H, M.D.
The RockDoc
Radnor, PA
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found the blogs by Steve Marcus from Dec 05 about the Dead culture of democracy in sharing the wealth among the family. What Steve didn&#8217;t mention was the incredible generosity of the Dead family itself. I met Steve in a sushi bar in Menlo Park circa 1983 or 84. We hit it off and became more than just acquaintances over the next several years. I had already long moved from the Bay Area, but we stayed in touch. Steve was just a great guy&#8211;I always insisted on paying for tickets (but just the fact that I could count on getting them was incredible)&#8212;Steve almost always threw in backstage passes as well. I&#8217;ll never forget one of the New Year&#8217;s runs&#8211;maybe 86 or 87? A whole bunch of us were there for all the concerts, and we topped off New Years with a great lunch at a Chinese Restaurant in Berkeley. We invited Steve to come join us, and he actually showed up! He didn&#8217;t know any of my friends, but we were brought together only as fellow Dead Heads can be. They were just great times, and I really miss those days. For me they all ended the day the Fat Man died.<br />
I haven&#8217;t seen or spoken to Steve in many years&#8211;we just lost touch. I hope he&#8217;s doing well. He deserves it!!!<br />
Barry H, M.D.<br />
The RockDoc<br />
Radnor, PA</p>
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		<title>By: So What!</title>
		<link>http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com/archives/2287/comment-page-1#comment-32011</link>
		<dc:creator>So What!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After forty-years on this bus, it seems that before I launch into this message, I should tell everyone that I find it most unfortunate, not to mention distasteful that this message even had had to be written.
First, the misinformation: the majority of those I refer to here (deluded faux-Deadheads) suggest that they are all looking out for everyone else&#039;s best interests. Yeah, right! Where the hell do these lotrats come up with that line of crap? Any true Deadhead (whatever the hell that really is), using common sense, must unequivocally ask themselves questions like that before buying into the &#039;...they owe me...&#039; line of BS before these deluded souls get the opportunity to tinker about with a lot of halfway prescriptions of what they think others actions and thoughts should be.
Just to add a little more perspective, the more delusional of these dunder-heads&#039; latest manifestos, like all the ones that have preceded them, is usually an unfathomable consummate anthology of disastrously self indulged &#039;...me me me...&#039; rants with misquotations and inaccuracies, an odyssey of selfish anecdotes that are occasionally entertaining, but certainly never informative. That&#039;s mainly due in part to the self-centeredness that these types are truly being driven by.
Now for some parting advice: Look at all the facts. Analyze all the arguments. Think about all the motives of the people who are telling you that a richly evocative description of a problem automatically implies the correct solution to that problem. And have confidence in yourself. Think for yourself. Remember, most deluded faux-Deadheads support rule by Man according to his own passions, opinions, and dictates, rather than rule by the natural law of another&#039;s inalienable right to hers/his own space.
In closing: Stop the god damn whining and keep on keeping on...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After forty-years on this bus, it seems that before I launch into this message, I should tell everyone that I find it most unfortunate, not to mention distasteful that this message even had had to be written.<br />
First, the misinformation: the majority of those I refer to here (deluded faux-Deadheads) suggest that they are all looking out for everyone else&#8217;s best interests. Yeah, right! Where the hell do these lotrats come up with that line of crap? Any true Deadhead (whatever the hell that really is), using common sense, must unequivocally ask themselves questions like that before buying into the &#8216;&#8230;they owe me&#8230;&#8217; line of BS before these deluded souls get the opportunity to tinker about with a lot of halfway prescriptions of what they think others actions and thoughts should be.<br />
Just to add a little more perspective, the more delusional of these dunder-heads&#8217; latest manifestos, like all the ones that have preceded them, is usually an unfathomable consummate anthology of disastrously self indulged &#8216;&#8230;me me me&#8230;&#8217; rants with misquotations and inaccuracies, an odyssey of selfish anecdotes that are occasionally entertaining, but certainly never informative. That&#8217;s mainly due in part to the self-centeredness that these types are truly being driven by.<br />
Now for some parting advice: Look at all the facts. Analyze all the arguments. Think about all the motives of the people who are telling you that a richly evocative description of a problem automatically implies the correct solution to that problem. And have confidence in yourself. Think for yourself. Remember, most deluded faux-Deadheads support rule by Man according to his own passions, opinions, and dictates, rather than rule by the natural law of another&#8217;s inalienable right to hers/his own space.<br />
In closing: Stop the god damn whining and keep on keeping on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 08:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad to read another perspective - one that shows how all this anger is unjustified. we are indeed lucky to have had all this free amazing music till now, we shouldn&#039;t be shouting like teenagers at a rally - &quot;music should be free&quot;.
I too only found the archive last year, and every show i got i have been grateful to have - how lucky, i thought...
I don&#039;t know much, but it always seemed those people at GD have shared their wealth, shared the love, shared their lives with us - we have no right to ask for more. Many of them still do and i am thanking them right now for just that.
Thank you :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to read another perspective &#8211; one that shows how all this anger is unjustified. we are indeed lucky to have had all this free amazing music till now, we shouldn&#8217;t be shouting like teenagers at a rally &#8211; &#8220;music should be free&#8221;.<br />
I too only found the archive last year, and every show i got i have been grateful to have &#8211; how lucky, i thought&#8230;<br />
I don&#8217;t know much, but it always seemed those people at GD have shared their wealth, shared the love, shared their lives with us &#8211; we have no right to ask for more. Many of them still do and i am thanking them right now for just that.<br />
Thank you :)</p>
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		<title>By: C Pettingill</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Pettingill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of new perspective to contend with now. At first, the whole LMA mess had me furious, and I hopped right in with the petition/boycott, made some snotty comments, and should have been a little more patient deliberate. I&#039;m much better now...
I discovered Archive.org by accident last March when I entered the computer age at last. To be honest, I got everything I ever wanted, which was every single show I attended. All 101, from 1977-1995. Most had SBD&#039;s only. Could not beleive they were all there. In a way I felt greedy and that it couldn&#039;t be completely legal.
1995, the year I started my own business. After contending with the madness of new kids (friggin&#039; balloons), and oppressive police tactics at the Cap Center, and in Birmingham, I skipped the RFK shows. Then Jerry dies...
Ten years of running my business, and sad nostalgia whenever I heard the Dead. All my old tapes, deteriorating, scared to play them.
Having access to those recordings was beautiful, all the happy memories came flooding back. All the fun came back. For a few months...
Each show I listen to again reminds me of things that happened.
Like when we scored front row seats in Saratoga 84. Jerry spit and smiled on me all night. My buddy Juan, has to go back to the car, and get his camera. He never made it back to the seats. Spent the remainder fo the show handcuffed to a chair beneath the stage. He said he couldn&#039;t stop laughing during &quot;I Need A Miracle&quot;. Hey buddy here&#039;s the show you missed.
Like pushing cars out of the mud and the lightning strikes at Merriweather in &#039;83. Going to the 24 hour drive-thru window, naked and muddy after the show. &quot;Please pull ahead sir&quot;. The &quot;Looks Like Rain&quot; the next day.
Raven space &#039;82. Forty of us rented a school bus the day of the show and bought out a whole row on the floor at the ticket window. Never forget the feeling when they went into &quot;Wheel&quot; after scaring the crap out of us.
Deer Creek &#039;90, thinking the boys are at the top of their game. Then Brent dies...
Somehow everything comes to an end. Glad I got to get back some memories. I&#039;ll share them with my friends, along with the recordings I now have. So Bobby... See ya...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of new perspective to contend with now. At first, the whole LMA mess had me furious, and I hopped right in with the petition/boycott, made some snotty comments, and should have been a little more patient deliberate. I&#8217;m much better now&#8230;<br />
I discovered Archive.org by accident last March when I entered the computer age at last. To be honest, I got everything I ever wanted, which was every single show I attended. All 101, from 1977-1995. Most had SBD&#8217;s only. Could not beleive they were all there. In a way I felt greedy and that it couldn&#8217;t be completely legal.<br />
1995, the year I started my own business. After contending with the madness of new kids (friggin&#8217; balloons), and oppressive police tactics at the Cap Center, and in Birmingham, I skipped the RFK shows. Then Jerry dies&#8230;<br />
Ten years of running my business, and sad nostalgia whenever I heard the Dead. All my old tapes, deteriorating, scared to play them.<br />
Having access to those recordings was beautiful, all the happy memories came flooding back. All the fun came back. For a few months&#8230;<br />
Each show I listen to again reminds me of things that happened.<br />
Like when we scored front row seats in Saratoga 84. Jerry spit and smiled on me all night. My buddy Juan, has to go back to the car, and get his camera. He never made it back to the seats. Spent the remainder fo the show handcuffed to a chair beneath the stage. He said he couldn&#8217;t stop laughing during &#8220;I Need A Miracle&#8221;. Hey buddy here&#8217;s the show you missed.<br />
Like pushing cars out of the mud and the lightning strikes at Merriweather in &#8216;83. Going to the 24 hour drive-thru window, naked and muddy after the show. &#8220;Please pull ahead sir&#8221;. The &#8220;Looks Like Rain&#8221; the next day.<br />
Raven space &#8216;82. Forty of us rented a school bus the day of the show and bought out a whole row on the floor at the ticket window. Never forget the feeling when they went into &#8220;Wheel&#8221; after scaring the crap out of us.<br />
Deer Creek &#8216;90, thinking the boys are at the top of their game. Then Brent dies&#8230;<br />
Somehow everything comes to an end. Glad I got to get back some memories. I&#8217;ll share them with my friends, along with the recordings I now have. So Bobby&#8230; See ya&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rich McDermott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich McDermott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 02:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
Thank You for providing this information. overall it is a shame that all of the goodwill, good vibes and good music is getting overshadowed by this nasty tone. I mean I am guilty of throwing a few f bombs myself. But I just listened to Bobby&#039;s interview and there was such an edge. I mean the people he kept refering to in negative ways are the DEADHEADS. The ones that went to the shows bought the tickets etc. The ones who went nuts anytime anyone went to the mic and said anything ....anything to the crowd. The people he is targeting are the ones who went nuts during Sugar Mags...I don&#039;t know I always thought we were in this together. Things just seem strange.
RBM
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Thank You for providing this information. overall it is a shame that all of the goodwill, good vibes and good music is getting overshadowed by this nasty tone. I mean I am guilty of throwing a few f bombs myself. But I just listened to Bobby&#8217;s interview and there was such an edge. I mean the people he kept refering to in negative ways are the DEADHEADS. The ones that went to the shows bought the tickets etc. The ones who went nuts anytime anyone went to the mic and said anything &#8230;.anything to the crowd. The people he is targeting are the ones who went nuts during Sugar Mags&#8230;I don&#8217;t know I always thought we were in this together. Things just seem strange.<br />
RBM</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com/archives/2287/comment-page-1#comment-32007</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You keep thinkin&#039;, Butch.  That&#039;s what you&#039;re good at.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You keep thinkin&#8217;, Butch.  That&#8217;s what you&#8217;re good at.</p>
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		<title>By: majordomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>majordomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 00:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good ol&#039; Gans. Im sure he has every single note ever played by the Real Grateful Dead backed up on SHN and FLAC, STFU
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good ol&#8217; Gans. Im sure he has every single note ever played by the Real Grateful Dead backed up on SHN and FLAC, STFU</p>
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		<title>By: dbf</title>
		<link>http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com/archives/2287/comment-page-1#comment-32005</link>
		<dc:creator>dbf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David
Thanks for posting.  I very much appreciate Steve&#039;s facts and insight and agree with his decision to purchase official releases.  I do the same.  I have no quarrels with any of the archive issues, but still feel strongly that the download series is priced out of &quot;market prices&quot;.  I want to keep buying official releases and only ask in return for fair pricing.  Lower prices will dramatically increase volume and will &quot;spread the music&quot; alot wider.  Please pass the message on to those who make such decisions.
Thanks
dave-- 40 years old with over 1,500 analog hours and nearly as many digital hours......
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David<br />
Thanks for posting.  I very much appreciate Steve&#8217;s facts and insight and agree with his decision to purchase official releases.  I do the same.  I have no quarrels with any of the archive issues, but still feel strongly that the download series is priced out of &#8220;market prices&#8221;.  I want to keep buying official releases and only ask in return for fair pricing.  Lower prices will dramatically increase volume and will &#8220;spread the music&#8221; alot wider.  Please pass the message on to those who make such decisions.<br />
Thanks<br />
dave&#8211; 40 years old with over 1,500 analog hours and nearly as many digital hours&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Rudolph</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rudolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well we finally found out about the true Bobby Weir didn&#039;t we- I just feel bad for his children-think of the values he is spreading to them with what happened over the past few weeks.
Now I can understand why Phil doesn&#039;t want to speak to him anymore and his audience threatened a boycott.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we finally found out about the true Bobby Weir didn&#8217;t we- I just feel bad for his children-think of the values he is spreading to them with what happened over the past few weeks.<br />
Now I can understand why Phil doesn&#8217;t want to speak to him anymore and his audience threatened a boycott.</p>
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